We talk with dig­i­tal philoso­pher Dou­glas Rushkoff about his book, Sur­vival of the Rich­est: Escape Fan­tasies of the Tech Bil­lion­aires. It’s about the Mind­set of the rich­est and most pow­er­ful moguls on the plan­et and the destruc­tion it’s leav­ing in its wake.

Then, Sur­vival of the Rich­est prais­es the work of Indige­nous philoso­pher Tyson Yunka­por­ta. We air our 2020 inter­view with Yunka­por­ta about his book. Sand Talk: How Indige­nous Think­ing Can Save the World.