We talk with Lori Got­tlieb about her best­selling mem­oir, Maybe You Should Talk to Some­one: A Ther­a­pist, HER Ther­a­pist, and Our Lives Revealed.

Then, a nov­el about a ther­a­pist who finds her­self cross­ing dan­ger­ous lines with a patient while strug­gling with her own grief. We talk with Bev Thomas about her debut nov­el, A Good Enough Moth­er. Its a break­out sen­sa­tion in the UK and was just pub­lished yes­ter­day in the U.S.