We talk with Elsa Pan­ciroli about her book, BEASTS BEFORE US: The Untold Sto­ry of Mam­mal Ori­gins and Evo­lu­tion. Delv­ing into the fas­ci­nat­ing and lit­tle-known his­to­ry of mam­mal evo­lu­tion, she pro­vides a fas­ci­nat­ing and uplift­ing look at the resilience of life on this plan­et, through the lens of how mam­mals came to be.

Then, moti­vat­ed by the pan­dem­ic lock­down, many peo­ple renewed a gar­den­ing tra­di­tion that was all the rage dur­ing WWII, the Vic­to­ry gar­den. We kick off the gar­den­ing sea­son talk­ing with gar­den­ing book author Mag­gie Stuck­ey about The Con­tain­er Vic­to­ry Gar­den: A Begin­ners Guide To Grow­ing Your Own Groceries.