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You want the big pic­ture? Here it comes. I’ve picked two of my favorite pow­er inter­views from years of inter­view­ing sci­en­tists, authors and experts.

You will hear a lit­tle-known Pro­fes­sor from the Uni­ver­si­ty of Utah, Dr. Tim Gar­rett. He’s a cloud spe­cial­ist. But Gar­rett pub­lished a paper pub­lished in Amer­i­ca’s most pres­ti­gious jour­nal, after being cham­pi­oned by the father of glob­al warm­ing” Wal­ly Broeck­er. It still took two years to get out.

Why? Because Gar­rett worked out that accord­ing to the laws of physics, only a com­plete col­lapse of civ­i­liza­tion could save us now from dev­as­tat­ing glob­al warm­ing. We’d rather keep on dri­ving around that hear about that.

Then we’ll go back to one of my favorite cli­mate sci­en­tists, Dr. Peter Ward. He’s got the his­to­ry of life in this plan­et in his back pock­et. Some of the long-term future too. Peter Ward says nature isn’t nice, and real­ly there isn’t much of a plan. We can dream of an intel­li­gent Gaian God in com­mand of the future. The bio­log­i­cal record, says Ward, is more like Mr. Bean is in charge. We need to get a grip on who we real­ly are, and where we real­ly are.