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For most of us, the ath­letes are what make sports inter­est­ing. But if you own the team or run the league, your play­ers are essen­tial­ly very expen­sive migrant work­ers who eat into your prof­its. We talk to N.F.L., N.B.A., and U.F.C. exec­u­tives about labor costs, view­er­ship num­bers, legal­ized gam­bling, and the rise of e‑sports.