This week we are rebroad­cast­ing our inter­view with Jen­ny Odell, ini­tial­ly aired in Feb­ru­ary of 2021. Our atten­tion has oper­at­ed as cur­ren­cy for the past cou­ple of decades, but with the inva­sive­ness of social media and tech­nol­o­gy, our abil­i­ty to exit and enter the atten­tion econ­o­my has been severe­ly hin­dered. As we feel pres­sure to post and com­ment on every­thing for an unknown audi­ence, do we inher­ent­ly lim­it our capac­i­ty for com­plex­i­ty and vul­ner­a­bil­i­ty? And what are the extend­ed ram­i­fi­ca­tions of becom­ing illit­er­ate in com­plex­i­ty? How does this rip­ple out into all of our rela­tion­ships? In lieu of the demand­ing world buzzing inside our devices, guest Jen­ny Odell shares the bril­liance of doing noth­ing, tend­ing to the eco­log­i­cal self, and grow­ing deep­er forms of atten­tion through a com­mit­ment to biore­gion­al­ism. Jen­ny Odell is a writer, artist, and enthu­si­as­tic bird­watch­er based in Oak­land, Cal­i­for­nia. She is the author of How to Do Noth­ing: Resist­ing the Atten­tion Econ­o­my. Odell teach­es dig­i­tal art at Stan­ford University.