We are often remind­ed of the tremen­dous amount of loss that tran­spires every day on this Earth; loss of lan­guage, bio­di­ver­si­ty, and ances­tral knowl­edge. In response, its under­stand­able that many of us may be hyper-fix­at­ed on pre­serv­ing what­ev­er we can and fight­ing to stave off the mass changes that have been set in motion. But what if we chal­lenged our­selves instead to rec­og­nize the auton­o­my of liv­ing knowl­edge, land as its own enti­ty, and the inevitabil­i­ty of con­stant change? In this weeks episode, guest Enrique Salmon uses the lens of kin­cen­tric ecol­o­gy to chal­lenge our propen­si­ty for mem­o­ry bank­ing, our dif­fi­cul­ty grap­pling with a chang­ing Earth, and our inad­ver­tent over­sim­pli­fi­ca­tions of com­plex liv­ing rela­tion­ships. Enrique Salmon is a Rar­muri. He is head of the Amer­i­can Indi­an Stud­ies Pro­gram at Cal State University“East Bay. He holds a Ph.D. in anthro­pol­o­gy from Ari­zona State Uni­ver­si­ty and has pub­lished many arti­cles on Indige­nous eth­no-botany, agri­cul­ture, nutri­tion, and Tra­di­tion­al Eco­log­i­cal Knowl­edge. He is the author of Eat­ing the Land­scape: Amer­i­can Indi­an Sto­ries of Food, Iden­ti­ty and Resilience and Iwgara.